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September 28, 2004 - Reply to MR in Iraq - RESPONDS TO MR IN IRAQ. I'M NOT IN THE MILITARY BUT IT IS WONDERFULL TO HEAR FROM ONE OF OUR BEST ACROSS THE COUNTY FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM. IF NOT FOR MY FREEDOM FOR MY CHILDRENS FREEDOM IN YEARS TO COME. I'M FULLY, COMPLETELY, UNCONDITIONALLY SUPPORTING YOU AND OUR TROOPS OVER IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN. I READ CNN SEVERAL TIMES A DAY AND KEEP UP DAILY ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA. EACH DAY IN MY TRUCK COMING TO WORK PART OF MY DAILY PRAYER IS TO BRING PEACE IN THAT AREA. I WAS OVER AT A FRIENDS HOUSE A WHILE BACK AND HE HAD A PICTURE OF A U.S. SOLDIER ON THIS REFRIGRATER. A SOLDIER IN IRAQ. A SOLDIER SERIOUSLY INJURED LYING ON HIS BACK WITH EXTREAM PAIN ON HIS FACE WITH HIS PARNER BY HIS SIDE WITH HIS WEAPON GUARDING HIM UNTILL HELP ARRIVES. I ASKED HIM WHY HE HAS THIS PICTURE ON THE REFIGRATER. HE STATED. ANYTIME I'M HAVING A BAD DAY. I THINK MY LIFE IS A DISASTER. I LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF THIS SOLDIER AND IT GIVES ME HOPE AND I SAY TO MYSELF. I'M HAVING A BAD DAY? THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR LIFE TO SERVE OTHERS.

September 25, 2004 - Thanks from in Iraq - I just wanted to write in and say thanks to all of you who give your reports to this site. I am in the military and currently stationed in Iraq. Being able to read about your successes is a welcome distraction from everything that is going on here. Trust me it has meant a lot to me. So thanks to all, and don't stop writing in. MR

September 22, 2004 - Comments on Cheney -
In answer to Marks question How Many fish did I catch this year? I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA! haha. I totally agree with you about things being totally different at Cheney this year! Last year I caught Stipers WAY more that Wipers! Probably 10 Stripers to every 2 Wipers. This year its been pretty even. June and July I know we caught close to 100 Stripers and I know even more Wipers. Largest Striper was 28 lbs. Largest Wiper was 16 lbs. Many Wipers in the 10 to 12 lb range. and Most Stripers around 14 to 17 lbs, with several to 24 lbs.
( I Just picked up a 25 lb fish from my taxidermist that I had done for a friend of my Brothers that came in july with him from Colorado. It was the first Striper he caught, and believe me, it is an AWESOME mount! My Taxidermist is Tom Kinder in El Dorado. He was my High School Biology teacher, and also taught Taxidermy. I wish I would have taken the class!! He only charges $5. an inch, and his is the best work I have personally ever seen!)
The walleye have been extremely scarse for me this year! I think Totally I have caught under 10 Walleye, but they were extremely large fish. The White bass were extremely numerous! Most averaging 2 lbs. It was a nice cool summer. The last few weekends we havent done too well. I too have SNAGGED lots of Wipers in the last 2 weeks. Trolling the 3 way the lure catches them in the side, and man what a fight! I havent kept accurate numbers like mark, but I did catch many nice fish. There were some days when I couldnt get a bite from a big fish, so we anchored and simply caught White Perch. Litteraly 100's of them!! That is also some great fun!! Cant wait for next season!
MIKE E.

September 2, 2004 - Response to question on deep lake fishing -
It is hard to say what might be showing up on your sonar, but I have a couple of ideas. Sauger are a deep water fish and love to loaf in the depths of rivers and lakes, and as a general rule, steer away from current. Another thing to think about, in the heat of summer, which has been unusally cool this summer, if one finds fish at the deepest parts of our lakes, they are generally very inactive. These are probably very large fish that are nocturnal or would rather feed during low-light hours only. I did fish Kanopolis on Monday and marked a large cluster of arches in 28' of water at the tip of a point during the middle of the day. I stayed over them with a jig and crawler and caught all the catfish, drum and white bass I could handle, but nothing of much size, but it was nice to at least catch what you were looking at. Another thing I have been contemplating, is maybe purchasing an underwater camera. I have never had the interest in one since it feels like cheating, but using it to learn about situations like yours, I feel they would be worth their weight in gold. Hey, you can only trust you sonar so much, why not know exactly what you are seeing, it will save you a lot of time and money in the long run, plus more fish in the boat. Hope this helps.

Brian from Mac

September 1, 2004 - More info on Goldeye - See the following link for a photo, description and information about the goldeye's habitat in Kansas.
http://www.kansasfishes.com/Pages/goldeye.htm

I could not find mention of the mooneye at this same website.

Dean

August 31, 2004 - Question on deep lake fishing - Not sure this is the right source to inquire about fishing deep in Kansas Lakes or not. If not could you direct me in the right direction? I do not usually pursue any one particular species of fish, I just like to have some success when out on the lake and enjoy being out there. I have had success drift fishing for catfish in Perry Lake and some success in Clinton. I am not into baiting and waiting at the hog trough, I like to move around and enjoy drifting or trolling.

I am getting started in Downrigger and long line fishing. Have been successful to some extent on picking up a keeper sauger or two at Perry Lake long lining crankbaits. I notice on my sonar the great numbers of fish that are showing on the bottom in thirty + feet of water. I understand in our lakes here in Kansas we have an enormous amount of rough and bait fish, but we also have some very large catfish that set on the bottom also. I have been told stories of Arkansas fisherman using downriggers to catch enormous cats on the bottom. I am wondering why that can not be done in Kansas with great results. I just do not know how to start pursuing these monsters by using downriggers to get down where they are. I guess I know how to get down there, just not what to use. I can control the depth with downriggers so I could put the bait wherever needed. I have tried running fresh 4" shad on a three way swivel just off the bottom, through, and over the top of what I suspect to be catfish but no interest. Am I wasting my time pursuing these fish? They are two large a fish for bait fish, they appear as arches on the sonar not a solid mass usually within 10' off the bottom. The only thing it could be would be drum, carp, gar or catfish right? Thank You for your time. Steven E. Woelk

August 26, 2004 - In reply to : July 14, 2004 - Fishing Story -I was fishing at Lovewell lake in Kansas this past weekend and caught a fish and I'm unsure of what the name of the fish is. I tried to research and find out what it is, but haven't found any information on it. I was wondering if you could tell what kind of fish it is. It was a white colored fish with yellow eyes and teeth. The eyes were almost like walleye eyes, but it was more of the shape of a drum or carp and had teeth. Also my dad hooked a carp that was probably at least 40lbs, do you know what the state record for carp is? If you have any information on this let me know. Matt

The fish in question sounds to be the Goldeye. Here's a link where you can find a description and picture http://kansasfishes.com/Pages/goldeye.htm .

Kansas state record for common carp is 47 lbs. 1.6 ounces .You can find all Kansas records at http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/fishing/Fish_Records.html#anchor426478 .

Craig M. Johnson
District Fisheries Biologist
Kansas Department of Wildlife & Parks

August 23, 2004 - Question on Lovewell Lake - Here is another website you might find useful for identifying Kansas fish species, especially the mystery fish out of Lovewell Lake. The website is: http://www.kansasfishes.com/Pages/goldeye.htm Dean

August 18, 2004 - Moon Eyes Comment - That looks like the fish I was talking about. Thanks for providing the link. Tom

August 13, 2004 - Matt's question about Lovewell: - Not sure of the official name but at Milford they are called Goldeneyes. Can be fun to catch and also good for cut bait. Vance

August 13, 2004 - Moon Eyes Comment - Here is the scientific info of the fish that is being caught. It's from the Iowa Department of Natural Resources, but it's what is being described. http://www.iowadnr.com/fish/iafish/moe-card.html
Dominic

August 12, 2004 - Matt's question about Lovewell:
- I was up there a few weeks ago and I caught a couple of those fish. I asked a local and he told me they called them "moon eyes", and I think they are overgrown shad. Tom

August 11, 2004 - Comment- I'm a relatively new visitor to this website and I have to tell you that I would love to meet Mike E. out at Cheney sometime. I retired a couple of years ago and this year I decided to get back into fishing. I fished some back in the sixties and I can tell you that we caught huge numbers of big walleyes at Cheney. I always remembered Cheney as a great fishing lake. A fellow military man from Indiana taught me how to catch the walleyes and back then we never heard of stripers or wipers. Reading Mike's comments have helped me catch fish. I especially appreciate his willingness to explain how he is so successful. I tried his 3-way rig and it does work well and is fun to use. I realize that when I catch a wiper or white bass it is essentially dumb luck on my part because I don't have the electronics on my boat that others have but it seems I have more luck using Mike's advice than any other thing I've tried. Mike E., please don't stop your commentaries. There are a lot of us idiots out there trying to put a fish or two on the line and you have been a great help.

August 6, 2004 - Bass Saturdays -Sounds great, but some important info is left out. What channel is this show going to be on? Thanks. Dominic

August 4, 2004 - Request for info on Melvern -
I have a small club tournament for bass at the end of august. I would like to know if someone would share a little information on this lake. Thanks Rich

August 2, 2004 - Last Time I Fished on a Sunday -My son & I were having an enjoyable morning on el dorado this last sunday having caught a few under-sized walleye some white bass or small wipers and some small catfish (all released). that is until about 11:30 when the pleasure boaters started taking to the water. do they not know safe boating rules.? i had one pass less than 30 yards from behind on my port side then less than 30 yards in front of me (while i was trolling) and then he swung to less than 30 yards to my starboard and cuts 30 yards astearn of me to head back from whence they came. the problem is i had 200 feet of fireline out behind my boat which of course got caught on his lower unit. after making my feelings known he did come to a stop. i motored over and asked if he had cut the line off his prop or how did he dispose of it. he hadn't even looked at it and sure enough it was still there. it had not tangled his prop so we were trying to retrieve the line to respool it and so i could keep the 6 dollar lure. this is the part that i like. we had gotten the lure up but as we did our boats drifted apart and guess what. he got impaled. we did get the hook removed.
this would not have happened at all, if he had been paying attention to his surroundings while operating his boat.. he did apologize and i accepted.

Since then I've come up with a plan.


Sterilize El dorado. kill every single organism. there will be no fisherman there thus leaving the whole lake for the pleasure boaters. no more zebra mussel problem either. but wait! That wouldn't work because the west siders would want cheney sterilized also.

So I then made a promise to myself to never fish on a sunday (during the day) ever again and to wait till 5:30pm or so before i head out.

August 2, 2004 - Bass Saturdays -Attention all Bass anglers starting in 2005 every Saturday morning from 7:00 till noon there will be bass fishing televised.If you would like to see these fishing shows every saturday tune in and help keep the ratings up. Take a kid fishing....it means a lot to us and shows us a good time.

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